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Old 03-22-2006, 08:10 PM   #11
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wth, I can't edit!?
I meant epilouge in my second sentence. I transpose stuff in my head all over the place.
I don't like the epilouge thing. There.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:26 PM   #12
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Okay, well...Isis, you and I would obviously have fun debating a lot of stuff.

I personally, want Dumbledore to come back, but just to tell Harry goodbye, and stuff like that. Maybe as a temporary spirit, though that is very unlikely.
And as for Snape, I know that he is bad, always has been bad, and I hope he dies. But that's just me.

I also see that no one has touched SHIPS at all. I would like to start that debate.

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Draco and Hermione || S.S. Leather and Libraries
Harry and Ginny || S.S. Orange Crush
Ron and Luna || S.S. Looney Lions

Most Likely SHIPS:
Ron and Hermione || The Good Ship
Harry and Ginny || S.S. Orange Crush

I kinda don't think that Draco will end up with anyone but Pansy, but I can't remember their SHIP name. Oh, btw, I got all these names off of Fiction Alley.org.
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:16 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Isis
I think he would end up as an Auror -- his grades were fairly good, he can always improve by the time he hits NEWTs. I don't like the fact that there's going to be a prolouge, though. I like it when books reach the end and they end; it lets you imagine if you want to and gives you a good ending feeling. Saying what happened to everybody just kind of...ruins it.

I'm all for Snape being good. He's good dammit. He had something up his sleeve along with Dumbledore - who, by the way, better not come back. he can't pull a Gandalf/Obi-Wan. Nuh-uh. No.

I don't want Dumbledore to come back either. That would be freaky and wouldn't add anything. He told Harry everything he needs to know.

I think Snape is bad...remember our debate from August-ish... the unbreakable vow he promised means that Malfoy must also change over to the good side. Plus, I don't like Snape, maybe he will die.
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:16 PM   #14
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Snape is a paradox for me. I don't think he's all bad though I certainly don't like him and I hate the fact that he killed Dumbledore.
As for Dumbledore coming back... I doubt it. that'd just be weird.
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Old 03-25-2006, 11:07 PM   #15
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i dont think Dumbledore will come back, nor do i want him to, it'd be odd. I hope Snape some how redeems himself, i liked it better when he was the mean guy, but not bad.
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Old 03-26-2006, 02:45 PM   #16
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Yeah, Dumbldore coming back would just be too weird.
I also hope Snape redeams himself. He and Sirius were my fav. characters.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:13 PM   #17
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Sirius I was so sad when he died. he was my favorite. I really hated the way he died too. A stupid viel thing! He wasn't even outright murdered! He just fell! Blah!
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Old 03-27-2006, 09:27 PM   #18
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WEll, I just jopined this thing, but you want predictions? some are obvious, others are meh, alot are speculation.

~ Harry as a Horcrux. Highly unlikely. DD said himself, it would be unlikely for Voldemort to make a living thing a horcrux. Why would he risk harry that way? Nagini for that matter. They could both die, like any living thing, and then, there goes 1/7th of his soul right there. True, it could have been on accident, but, how would you make an accidental horcrux? You would have to say the spell right? Its not like a fully loaded rusty gun thats been sitting in the everglades since 1982, about to go off due to a rusted coil/spring. I dont think he made it on acident, and I dont think the scar is a horcrux either, as another said it, "The scar is not a physical item/object, away friom the skin that wears it." I love how they addressed that. But you see, the scar could not be a horcrux in and of itself.

~ R.A.B. Aaah, good ole Regulus Black. I have found that I am not the only reader who believes in his deeper connection in the future book. You may deeply disagree with me here, but hear the reasoning. In HP and the OoTP, you hear about Regulus. However, you never hear his middle name. It may have arisen in previous books. Also, in the same conversation, Sirius says "paraphrasing - By the time he realized what he was in, he was in too deep to get out." For a brief moment, i thought of undercover work for the ministry. It happens all the time in reality, where an agent will go into hostile waters undercover for up to years, and its surprising just how many fall in too deep to turn back, or get lost in it. Doubtful. Highly doubtful. Perhaps, he had a revelation, and decided the best thing to do, was destroy what he could, when he could, and why did Sirius have to refer to Regulus as "He was probably not important enough to be killed by Voldemort himself." Maybe he was killed by voldy himself. He has to be dead, right? The black family tree has registered his death, unless by some strong magic, a spell was placed on it to show he was dead, and is hiding out.

~ Petunia. Yes, the crane. Could she possess magic? This has bumtumbled in my head a bit, and I wonder, could her pure hatred for Lily come, only because she was not accepted into Hogwarts as well? Sheer envy? Perhaps thats where that spawned from, or her powers came about late. Regret. Such a strong emotion, for any character, fiction, or factual. Perhaps she regrets not reconnecting with her sister, and taught herself to hate her sister. Could it be even, and this is going WAAAAY out on a limb here, that Petunia could have ties to the dark lord? Well, think of it, voldy had to have gotten his wand back somehow, so, who retrieved it? could it have been Petunia, who was driven so insane by jealousy, she stayed for dinner and a movie? (God, i would hate to see what voldy had to pay for THAT date) You never know. Perhaps, she really does care for Harry, but cant stand showing him, because she fears losing him, and doesnt want to feel the pain. Who knows.

~Snape. YES! I find it hard to believe that Snape really has turned back to the dark side. Maybe there is more to his dark betrayal than what some think. It seems, that Snape (and read this carefully) had a sort of obssessive love with Lily Potter. Disagree if you would like, however! The potions book that harry used in HBP, also had girly handwriting in it. Certainly not snapes, (or IS it... does, someone like a little village people?) Since lily was also good at Potions, though it seems Charms was her cup'o tea, perhaps they actually shared that book, and made it together, revising, and editing it. you never know. Is that why he hangs onto that memory? Of snapping at Lily? Could she have had something for him, something that he gave up right at that moment? As well, could that be why he has been saving Harry? Alot of people say, "Well, it was the debt he owed James." or "But he hates harry, anybody could see it." Yes, but why hasnt he killed harry yet? Or at least hurt him more than he could have. My guesstimation? Love. His hatred for James Potter, that drives him to insanity, but his undying love for Lily, that stays his hand. Notice how, even though she was muggleborn, he never says anything bad about her, though he seems to be all over james, remus, sirius, and peter? Why is that?

Well, those are some of my predictions for now, if you like what i have to say, then i will put up some more, but go through and reread those spots, things will start to click.
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:29 PM   #19
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I've read alot of people's thoughts/opinions on Snape/Lily, which are pretty interesting. But your ideas sound good (rentonsshygirl) and I agree with most of the R.A.B. stuff. That topic has certainly sparked a lot of debate all over the net!

People have really good questions & theories--we'll just have to wait for the 7th book and hopefully all of our questions will be answered =)

About Dumbledore, I don't really think he'll come back. It looks like Harry is pretty much on his own. There's most likely going to be a fight between Harry and Voldemort, but I wonder how the prophecy will be fulfilled?
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Thank you. I have been rereading the books for some sort of clue as to what the last book is going to be like. I am REALLY curious, as to wether there might be something deeper with Harry's father involved in all of this. Or his mother. There must be, right? Why stress her eyes? its been said numerous times by numerous people (E.G.- Lupin, black, slughorn) That he has his mothers eyes. What is His fathers family like? You never hear anything about them, or what they were like. Once or twice i thought, "how cool would it be, if voldemort was Jame Potter's father?" I mean, they look almost exactly alike, Harry and Tom Riddle. Is there a deeper connection between them? I dont know.

No, I dont believe that dumbledore will join the Ranks of Obi Wan Kenobi, and Mufasa. He is gone. Perhaps, he will return to the school. spend his summer at 12 Grimmauld place, then go back and find clues, yes, thats where i think he will find most of his answers, at the place it all started where his parents were confronted by the dark lord himself. perhaps there is something there, that will help Harry. Or something that will make him finally realize or understand something. I do however, believe that Fawkes is going to play a huge role in the next book. I have encountered alot of people saying no, but remember. Fawkes only answers to those who are true to Dumbledore, and HArry? He is Dumbledores man Through and Through.
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