Myth Busters

[Inwe Ringil]

The first myth I'm going to reveal as a fake is Global Warming.

We have all heard of it and have been told that the earth is heading toward another Ice Age because of all the Carbon Dioxide that factories create. NOT SO!!! Even if we shut down all the factories there would still be aot of carbon dioxide in the astrosphere because there are more people on this earth than there ever has been.
With out carbon dioxide there would be no greenhouse effect and if there wasn't any greenhouse effect the earths average temperture would be -100 degrees F. instead of +50 degrees F.
Some scientist set up a poll fp atmospheric scientists to answer. These are the results:

17% of atmospheric scientists say that Global Warming is a problem
30% of atmospheric scientists say that there isn't enough data to tell
50% of atmospheric scientists say that Global Warming isn't a problem

Now for a quote from Dr. Jay L. Wile (the guy who wrote my science book):

"If the data seems to indicate that no Global Warming has occured, and if the majority of scientists in the field say that Global Warming isn't a problem, then why does the media seem to say the exact opposite? I have no idea."

So Global Warming is NOT a problem and there isn't too MUCH carbon dioxide in the air.

That is the end of debunking this particular myth, but there are plenty more to be debunked.

[Oblivion]

:huh: are you so sure about that?

[JEM]

I am not sure about that. I believe that the survey you are citing is based on a limited sample to prove the author of your textbook's point. Also, factories are not the only problem: us breathing, volcanoes erupting, and cars driving also contribute to this problem. What are you talking about with the average temperatures being higher without the greenhouse effect? The greenhouse effect keeps warm heat in that "bounced off the earth." You are right in your point that too much CO2 is not the only problem contributing to global warming, but it does have a HUGE impact.

[~swissmochafudge~]

:blink: :push:

Actually, globle warming is a huge problem. Okay...so the world isn't going to blow up in our faces TOMORROW but give it 50 years and:

a) Our land mass will have grown massivly (I'm just typing this up from my own knowledge so I can't give you an actually % RIGHT now but it is a surprisingly big amount.) Lake's, sea's other masses of water are shirnking at an unbelievable rate.

b)The average earth temperature will also rise, quicker than you would expect.

c) Our ozone layer is growing thinner because of the disgusting amount of carbon dioxide, greenhouse gases, pullution that is being expelled from manmade artifacts. Be it factories, cars, tractors, your heating system, etc.

d) Because our ozone layer is growing thiner and thinner this is causing all sorts of health problems. Skin cancer, being a large one. Asthma, obesity...another.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM! You really have to think or your future generations when you make simple choices wether or not to bike or take the car (I know...that example is really overused!), use aerosal spray cans, eat organic food, etc etc etc etc....This is a massive problem, and the more we do about it the better.

[Isis]

Our land mass will have grown massivly
That's the one point where you're wrong: Land masses will actually shrink a little bit. Despite the heat making more evaporation of water [shrinking of lakes, desertification, etc.], the extra heat will balance this out by melting the polar ice caps. The ice caps are currently shrinking; if this accelerates the sea could rise 100-200 feet, putting a lot of the world's major cities underwater.
New York, Tokyo, Sydney, LA ... basically anything on the coastline? Gone.

[JEM]

As a science geek, I know that part of what Isis just said is true. The coastline is expected to rise about 300 feet if all the ice caps in the antartic melt. This will not flood all the cities like it did in water world, but still will have a large effect.

[~swissmochafudge~]

Oh that DOES make sense!

Way to go science buffs :bigsmile: So then in say...150 years...the land mass WILL actually grow, being that all the polar ice caps have been melted away...right?

[Oblivion]

are you serious? the coastlines will be gone! this may sound stupid, but does that mean the Bahamas would sink like Atlantis, because i have family there:unsure:

[~swissmochafudge~]

Ingwe Rigil:

I'm still crunching up my face in concentration trying to find a myth I can bust...just FYI. :bigsmile:

MOCHA

[Inwe Ringil]

Yes, I'm sure about this. Global warming is like the hole in the ozone layer and second hand smoke, a myth. The goverment ussually makes decisions about what to tell people without consulting scientists who speciallize in the matter. Like when they made cars that had really good milage, they didn't consult anyone, it resulted in DEATH. So they had to get rid of the those cars. Carbon Dioxide whould still be increasing even if we didn't have cars or factorys because the human population keeps growing.

[Oblivion]

oooooooh, do one about the blue holes:nuts: , i never did find out about them

[Isis]

So far, the only real justification for the "busted myth" is that that the goverment lies to us. I know that, governments have to lie to people to be effective.

What other evidence do you have? Or can you explain it more clearly, so that I get where you're coming from? In your first post, you talked about Ice Ages. I think you're saying that a new ice age arising from global warming isn't likely.

blue holes
Blue holes?

[JEM]

Blue holes are, according to http://istina.rin.ru/eng/ufo/text/101.html:

"The white, sandy seafloor near the shallow waters of the Bahama Islands occasionally drops away to disappear in a dark blue pool below the transparent waters. Reaching hundreds of feet deep, these pools are called blue holes and are actually subterranean caverns. They were formed around 18,000 years ago when a giant continental icecap removed oceanic waters and lowered the sea level by hundreds of feet. During that era, the Bahama Islands were hills on a large plain. Rainwater was made acidic by tropical vegetation, and seeped into the soil to erode and dissolve limestone bedrock, creating the underground caverns. Some caverns collapsed under the weight of the topsoil, and became they type of sinkholes that occur in the Caribbean area. When the ice melted, the seas rose and flooded the lowlands with water. The sinkholes, now covered by water, became the famous blue holes.

Local folk stories claim the holes are the legendary lair of the lusca, an octopus-like monster that comes out when hungry, churning the waters with its arms and dragging boats under. Although no monsters live beneath the surface, blue holes can capsize boats. The caves trap tidal flow inside their underwater passageways, creating quick currents that create surface turbulence and whirlpools that can suck small vessels to the bottom. Divers are also endangered by strong currents so the holes can only be explored safely twice a day - when the tide and caverns are calm. "

[Gavin Ramaswami]

The first myth I'm going to reveal as a fake is Global Warming.

We have all heard of it and have been told that the earth is heading toward another Ice Age because of all the Carbon Dioxide that factories create. NOT SO!!! Even if we shut down all the factories there would still be aot of carbon dioxide in the astrosphere because there are more people on this earth than there ever has been.
With out carbon dioxide there would be no greenhouse effect and if there wasn't any greenhouse effect the earths average temperture would be -100 degrees F. instead of +50 degrees F.
Some scientist set up a poll fp atmospheric scientists to answer. These are the results:

17% of atmospheric scientists say that Global Warming is a problem
30% of atmospheric scientists say that there isn't enough data to tell
50% of atmospheric scientists say that Global Warming isn't a problem

Now for a quote from Dr. Jay L. Wile (the guy who wrote my science book):

"If the data seems to indicate that no Global Warming has occured, and if the majority of scientists in the field say that Global Warming isn't a problem, then why does the media seem to say the exact opposite? I have no idea."

So Global Warming is NOT a problem and there isn't too MUCH carbon dioxide in the air.

That is the end of debunking this particular myth, but there are plenty more to be debunked.
Hey! have none of you read State Of Fear it is all just a conspiracy to get us to buy hybrid cars. If it is true we can just move to mars and start a new race.

[JEM]

I have never read the book. America is currently not the country that uses the most oil, china is. Maybe people in China as well as Americans should buy hybrids?

[Oblivion]

so the bahamas was a plain at first before it was islands? my family never believed in lucras, if thats wat it is, but i think in other caribean islands they believe that. Theres like one or two in Nassua, and like 4 in Abbaco, its so cool.

[JEM]

According to this article yes. This is just one source. It might be wrong.

[Oblivion]

humans cant live on Mars.................i think

[Imrahil1234]

if we spent more money on space exploration and sciences and less on advanced killing machines we could live on mars in 25 years i gurantee

[Oblivion]

yeah like that'd ever happen,

anyway, why would we want to live on Mars?

[Ameerah8]

that'd be sooo cool. But it'd kind of suck not being able to go outside...we'd have to find some sorce of water on mars first, of course.

[Oblivion]

i dont think it'd be that fun, i mean wouldnt it get boring? not to sound stupid or anything

[Ameerah8]

maybe maybe not. all depends on what you do for fun. I think it'd be cool because we'd be able to explore the planet and find out more about it. There may be a city that was there before, or something like that. we never know.

[Imrahil1234]

if ever there was a spaceship to freeze people and send them to another planet (Civilization 3 anyone?) sign me up. i think it would be facsinating, and i would love to see the earth/sun from another planet. Just think how many people have actually gotten to see the earth from outside the atmosphere compared to how many have lived!

[Oblivion]

i think i'd prefer reading about the exploration than actually participating in it

[Ameerah8]

why? It'd be sooooo much fun. And anyway reading about it isn't half the fun. I mean how long can you sit and listen to your teacher talk about the different dirt. lol wouldn't it be more fun to be there and see/feel it? plus red is the coolest color for a planet. XD

[runnerkgirl]

I've read this entire thread and i have a few things to say. I'm studying geology right now in science with the best science teacher ever. he's like ancient but he knows a lot. he has even proved the government wrong a couple times and he points out mistakes on movies he shows in class :)

first of all yes, the sea is getting larget and the land is getting smaller for 2 reasons. 1. is the polar ice caps are melting. 2. is plate techtonics and sea floor spreading. the atlantic ocean is spreading at about 3 in. a year. so not that much but its still spreading. the one ocean that is getting smaller and will be gone some day is the Mediterranian.

another thing about moving to mars guys is that it untill they invent a faster space ship/station it would take humans about 17 years just to get to mars. now if you have to pack that much food in that little of space that doesn't leave much room for people. so scientist still have to figure out that problem. thankfully they are working on it right now. i actually read a short science fiction novel about a group of people that moved to mars. they were trying to kind of be like a utopia but it didn't really work out. and it sounded really boring. plus then if only a couple people could move to mars where does that leave the rest of us? i mean if it gets that bad where we have to move to mars then obviously the earth won't be a livable planet much longer. (not to scare anyone or anything)

[JEM]

Actually it takes about three years for an object to travel from earth to Mars, not 17.

[runnerkgirl]

oops sry that was probably jupiter or something :D

[Ameerah8]

lol, but like i said we still have to find a source of water before we even start thinking about moving there.

[Oblivion]

but everyone's already started thinking:p , and personally i dont mind listening to a teacher drone on about types of dirts, im weird so i'd find it fascinating, although i'd prefer a book instead.

[JEM]

Good thing we have a president who wants to build a civilation on Mars when he can't control his own administration.

[Oblivion]

hey :mad: , i'm sure President Bush is doing all he can, lets see you lead an entire nation

[JEM]

Lets agree to disagree

[Imrahil1234]

sorry, but for people with that much power, saying that hes trying really really shouldn't cut it.

[JEM]

Anyone who likes our current president, please write about it. I like to hear both sides of every argument. I might be wrong.

[runnerkgirl]

i agree if he has that much power why should he waste it. Has anyone else noticed how many "vacations" he takes. I mean i can understand like maybe 1 a year and then going back to his ranch like once a month but when your the president you get to travel a lot anyways so i think its a total abuse of power. and he should spend more money on helping with the environment (i don't want to sound like a tree hugger) but if he did we would solve a lot of problems that there are in this world. (everyone must know that these is my opinions)

[Ameerah8]

I agree with the tree hugger. LOL. But what about the bill that stated African americans are allowed to vote. Isn't the president allowed to renew that? if so why hasn't he?

[JEM]

African Americans are allowed to vote under the 15th Amendment. The president can not renew it because it doesn't have to be renewed.

Yes, GWB needs to do something about the environment.

[Ameerah8]

No i heard/read that by 2007 African American's wouldn't be able to vote. But then there's always the bill of rights that says all American citizens are able to vote....So really there's no point in keeping the 15th Amendment.

[JEM]

Let me bust this myth. It is not true.

[Oblivion]

wait, so how many of you guys dont like Bush?

[JEM]

Well roughly half of America is against Bush. So about 147,867,067 people in America.

[Oblivion]

well i meant in Teenlit, but while youre giving statistics how many people in America like Bush then?

[JEM]

okay there are 174 members of teenlit. About half like Bush (86) and half don't (86). I really don't know for sure.

[Ameerah8]

out of all those people how many have posted more than 2 or 1 times?

[daz3026]

Well i dont know heck about sicence... i did get a D in my science class last smester??! ( and the rest were A-'s and B's!!) so im not sure wut to say bout this.... idk.. u sure bout that???:confused:

[Isis]

Say about what? Some science question?:

If it's a question of mars, it's all about the money. Whether we could or not is irrelevent, it's if there's government funding for it, or some kind of profit. And you better believe that goverment funding is going into science for mostly military reasons. First science figures something out, then the miltary puts it to use, and then the people get it. Things that private corporations/individuals do with their own money is either geared towards business, or rare in this country [because it's so expensive!]

[Oblivion]

i thought there was government spending towards space like NASA

[Inwe Ringil]

I like Bush. He's not perfect. But who is? And people who lead large country's make the same number of mistakes we do. Take Henry VIII, Julius Ceasar, Gallienus. They were good leaders but their mistakes are EXTRAVAGATED. Henry VIII with is wives, Julius Ceasar with ambition, and Gallienus with to many enemys in the senate.

And this war is enough, to make anyone want a vacation. But it will be over very soon.

And whoever said that African American won't be able to vote, sometime in the future. I was wondering if you're familliar with George Puffield. This in one of his quotes:
Wilst sun and moon endure, America shall remain a city of refuge for the whole earth, until she, herself, shall play the tyrant, forget her destiny, disgrace her freedom, and provoke her God.

There is a book I read called 'Passage to Pluto'. It's about some astronaouts going on a mission the the planet beyond Pluto, it is called Planet X.


9note: I do not like Henry VIII. But he did write 'What Child is This' and I love that song.)

[Oblivion]

i think wat bush is doing in iraq is good, we are helping all the iraqians, well not the terrorist ones, the news just shows all the bad and depressing things

[JEM]

Does anyone else think this is a good myth to bust (if it really is a myth). It seems pretty awesome to me.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10818583/?GT1=7538

[Oblivion]

wtf????? is that possible??? yes it would be good to bust it, that is if its unreal....jeeze flourescent pigs, fishies, cloned dogs...go azns

[Isis]

I know that a while ago in texas they could make rats translucent, and then inject things and watch how the body reacted to whatever it was and rejected/assimilated it. I didn't know that they could make it genetic. It's possible, but that's a "who knows?" kind of thing. Wait and see. There needs to be more articles and more rumors to really know.

[Oblivion]

the pig was like a yellow-green, is it possible to make it like blue or some other color?

[JEM]

I think so. The article said that in Texas they made translucent rats, so I guess any color is possible. I bet in a week we find out this is a fake, but for now, this is so cool!!!

[~swissmochafudge~]

MYTH: Great minds think alike.

If they did, then we wouldn't have the variation of awesome inventions we have today.

[Vennila X Vana]

haha, Joseph I showed that green pigs article you sent me to my Bio teacher and she responded,
"Don't they have anything better to do than make pigs green, like I don't know...curing cancer?"

[JEM]

Maybe the people who developed this new technique were Dr. Seuss fans and wanted Green Eggs and Ham?

Start looking for green chickens.

[Chicken Warrior]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

I think it was in China that they used Jellyfish gene to make glowing Tomatos. This could be the same sort of thing, except with pigs.

[~swissmochafudge~]

Or maybe differant neon coloured humans are coming next, it's going to be a new fashion trend!

..And they can carry around their very own glowing pigs, chickens and jellyfish in little clutch purses.

YIKES.

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[Oblivion]

*bursts out laughing*

[runnerkgirl]

has any one here ever seen myth busters on the discovery channel? its on at 9:00 central on wednesdays.

Kayla

[Ameerah8]

i've seen it before....lol, but that was last summer. i thought it was pretty cool though.

[JEM]

I saw it. I didn't like it though. The myths that they "busted" were so obscure that I really couldn't have cared less if they busted it or not.

[runnerkgirl]

truth is i've never seen it before. but i saw a commercial for it so i was wondering if it was good. Plus the topic seemed fitting for this thread.

Kayla

[Oblivion]

i've never seen it, but my friend said they did a myth buster about the durability of an iPod

[JEM]

Yes it certainly does fit this thread.

[Imrahil1234]

i've never seen it, but my friend said they did a myth buster about the durability of an iPod

o rub it in mine just died and im stuck with CDS can you believe it, how 90's!! :)

[Oblivion]

omg that sooo sux, irony, sorry:sad2: